Avoid Saskia Clicks

I received this email from the PO of Saskia Clicks earlier today

Hello Suellen Roley

Thank you for being a member of saskiaclicksptc.info
Your username is stargazerschild
Your balance is $ 0.02262

Hello all or what is left of members;

 This site has been almost terminated by all the changeovers and non-interest in it. I have got a new design and have changed this site to shared revenue.

As it has no-profits. Hopefully it will start to come back to at least half of its old standings.

I am sending this email to all members hoping that they will become active as 90% of members have died I think. Anyway you will see a large drop in members, hopefully not but time will tell.

 Also if you have more than 1 account you will be deleted. I fond members with 9 accounts.

 For those of you who do remain , I will be starting A Halloween  Purchase contest with lots of great prizes, credits feat. links with marque and color and a Complete PTC site with Domain good until 2013 A value or about 50 US dollars.

 Okay I have finished my little short story. Thank you for your time and have a nice day or night.

Admin Saskiaclicksptc

 Do you see anything in that email about inflated link values? I am sure you don't and I am also sure that you are wondering why I am even asking the question. Read on for an answer :)

I was clicking at Saskia Clicks after receiving (and READING) this admin email. I noticed that my earned in one day balance jumped from under 3 cents to over 4 dollars (less than .03 to over $4.00) after ONE click in the middle of the 13 clicks that were available.

Now, the email had not included any reference to link values changing and/or being inflated, so I thought this was an error.  I notified the owner.

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:56 PM, donald harrison <edited> wrote:

Site has turned Shard revenue and sent admin email out earlier

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Suellen Roley <edited> wrote:

Username: stargazerschild
Ip Address: 72.0.161.194
Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0) AppleWebKit/535.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/14.0.835.202 Safari/535.1

Earned Today: $4.00250, I don't think so.

 You can see his reply above (Site has turned Shard [sic] revenue and sent admin email out earlier).

1) IMO, that's a totally unprofessional --and somewhat rude-- reply. No 'thanks for pointing this out, but it's not an error' not even a thank you for contacting us

2) What does the change to a shared revenue site and admin email have to do with anything? The admin email did NOT mention inflated link values or changes in link values at all.

So I sent this reply and deleted my account.  As stated in my reply, I can earn more REAL MONEY (as opposed to Monopoly money) picking pennies up off the street or returning soda bottles/cans for the deposit refund than I can at this site.

Suellen Roley to donald

show details 2:15 PM (18 minutes ago)

Yes I read your admin email. I didn't see anything anywhere in that email about inflated link values. In fact I just reread it twice (for a total of 3 times reading it) and there is NOTHING there about inflated link values.

Next time I won't bother sending in a contact about what I thought was an error. You obviously didn't appreciate it

OOOOPS, I forgot there won't be a next time anyway, since I am leaving the site.  4.00 in monopoly money every day-- shared profit equals probably less than 1/10 cent each day? 

in this economy......I could earn more picking pennies up off the street when I go for a walk or returning pop cans/bottles for the deposit than I can earn from this site

I've been in this industry for 10 years, owned 6 ptr sites and 3 search engines. There are no profits to share anymore

And for the future, I would recommend NOT assuming that your members haven't read the admin email when they contact you, particularly when (again) you did not mention the inflated link values at any point.

So unless you like a site where you don't earn real money, and the PO expects you to read his mind....avoid Saskia Clicks like the plague.

ETA: just received this reply from him

am sorry about tone as was not intended, I run 25 PTC sites and 1 TE I got this site before it was to be deleted as old owner took the money what he got and ran. If you decide to leave, i am very sorry to hear that but as site was losing money only thing to do was go shared. If it makes money members will get, if not will be used as a traffic exchange. Of the 3200 members 2900 are inactive and 200 are multi I.P.  So that leaves maybe 150 members active in last 90 day. Also Paypal is killing the PTCinustry as PTC sites will no longer be able to receive or pay members. Will have to turn to AlertPay and fees there are very high. So if you have any good ideas it would be greaty appreciated. And yes many contact and you are the first that read email so far. Thank you for your time.

I have left already but am impressed with him taking the time to further explain the situation. I am also impressed that he really is trying to run the site professionally unlike so many site owners.

This is both HILARIOUS and TOTALLY STUPID!!

Hi folks!
Edited seems to be having a problem with the mailing system so I just popped in to try and sort it.

I hope you are all doing well in your endeavours and are doing plenty of surfing!
If you receive this e-mail, please send in a ticket at the site and I will add 50 credits to your account.
Send a ticket with "I received the e-mail"

Happy surfing,

So I go to the site because its pretty bloody obvious that I did indeed receive the email. I go to the support ticket section and there is no possible way to submit a support ticket.

I wonder what this person will think, as I see it there are two possible conclusions he will come to

1) The mailer is screwing up and nobody got the mail
2) We all got the emails and nobody read them, or cared enough to send in a ticket

Oopsie. I just hovered my mouse over the form, and lo and behold there are links to submit a ticket and to view closed tickets.

I think the links are yellow or white on a yellow background until you hover the mouse over them, and then they are red. The only reason I thought to hover my mouse over the form is that there was a stray | on the form that made no sense.

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Where I'm Waiting For Payouts (September 2011)

Lady of the Links: 491 days, $11.30

Paid Dragon: 2 days, $2.07

Who Has Paid Me in September 2011

Clix Sense: $10.74
Hot Rods PTR: $2.48
Myecom: $.03

Who Has Paid Me In July and August 2011

July 2011

Polar Bear Clicks: $5.39
Hot Rods PTR: $2.50
Showcase PTR: $2.32
Poker PTR:  $4.46
Pinecone Research: $6.00
Hogs Hollow PTR:  $1.07
Raining Cash Emails:  $1.77
Old Amsterdam Post:  $1.24
Donkey Mails:  $1.56
Dream Mails:  $1.73
Matrix Mails:  $1.20
Vale PTR:  $12.69
Jills Click Corner:  $1.00
Clix Sense:  $13.05
Monkey Bizs:  $2.29
Cathouse Mails: $2.17
St Cash Unlimited:   $1.06
No Minimum:  $2.54
Sand Castle Cash:  $2.03

Total for July 2011: $66.07

August 2011

Pinecone Research: $6.00
Raining Cash Emails: $2.00
Wallaby Mails: $5.45
Down Home Folks: $2.44
Fairground Clickers: $1.29
Hogs Hollow PTR: $.80
Sand Castle Cash: $2.00
Our PTR: $.32
Firecracker Mail: 8.95
1 Cent Mail: $6.49
Dream Mails: $1.96
Old Amsterdam Post: $1.27
Fusion Mails: $2.70

Total for August 2011: $41.67

Total for July and August: $107.74

Another PTC Site Rant

I never fail to be amazed by the number of 'intelligence challenged people' in the online world. But this one really takes the cake, the pie, and the huge bowl of Haagen Daazs ice cream with sprinkles!!

Every single one of the links at this site is being shortened and run through adfly, (http://adf.ly/) which is a known framebreaker.

What does this mean?  It means the program owner is making money each time we click the links (he/she gets paid for every person who clicks/visits the links he is shortening with adfly) -- and we get nothing.

When there is a framebraker at a PTR (paid to read) site you can at least click the link again because the PTR timer doesn't necessarily start over again from the beginning.

In PTC sites (Aurora scripted sites) when there is a framebreaker you could click the link 100 times and never ever get credit as the timer starts over each time.

I am not sure if this is creative debt control (increase the owners income while he/she doesn't have to pay out a penny!) or just plain stupidity!

I have just contacted the site in question to see what the PO has to say (if he/she is knowingly doing this, then I will name and shame)

ETA: as of September 18 2011 there has been no response to my email -- which was sent over a week ago -- and the links are still being run through Adfly.

Somehow they have a daily top 10 on their site?  I am sure its not a recent daily top 10 because nobody can get around the ad.fly issue.

So it's time to name and shame:  Primavera PTC. They can go ahead and try to delete me, but I just deleted my own account ...... I belong to too many PTC sites to begin with and most of them at least allow their members to earn points if not cash. This one does NOT.

IMO, this site is doing this on purpose to prevent their members from earning anything.

Hiding Important Terms is Misleading

So I joined yet another PTC site (yes I would say that I am indeed addicted to PTC sites).

I always check the terms to see if they pay members who don't upgrade. I generally do NOT join sites that require upgrades in order to be paid

But this latest one had a new twist; they HIDE the fact that you must be upgraded in a second terms/faq/help section of the site. It is not mentioned on the front/home page nor on the normal terms page

http://www.colouredsmokeptc.info/index.php?view=home& front page of the site -- I don't see anything about having to be upgraded to get paid

http://www.colouredsmokeptc.info/index.php?view=terms&  not a word there about having to be upgraded to get paid  is there?

Most people if they read the terms at all skim quickly to see if their country is allowed and if they have to be upgraded to be paid.  Who would think to scroll to the bottom of the terms to see this:

PLEASE CONTINUE TO READ THE 'HELP' SECTION WHERE THE REMAINDER AND MORE SPECIFIC TERMS ARE LOCATED!!!

 http://www.colouredsmokeptc.info/index.php?view=help&

http://www.colouredsmokeptc.info/index.php?view=help&faq=1&

And the fact that you have to be upgraded to receive payments is halfway down the page on that last link above.

In fact, I didn't know that I had to be upgraded to receive any payouts until I received an email from the site that mentioned both the second set of terms and the fact that members must be upgraded to receive payouts.

The cheapest membership is 24.40 per year or 2.40 per month.

At this time there are 19 links to click per day for free members.  There are 22 links for upgraded members.

For informational purposes, I have clicked 32 links and delivered 214 hits to the ptp link for the site.

I have a balance of  .06514 (slightly over 6 1/2 cents). PTP hits account for .00214 of the total (less than 1/2 of a  cent). So I have clicked 32 links for a total of 0.063 (slightly over 6 cents). Doing the math (0.063 divided by 32 clicks) leaves me earning 0.00196875 per click.

So just for the sake of argument lets say that I spend the $24.40 for the upgrade and get an extra 3 clicks per day at 0.00196875 each.  22 clicks per day at 0.00196875 each is equal to .0433125 per day from clicking. I would need to click every day for 563 days (and my upgrade would expire 198 days before I broke even requiring another 6 months upgrade--another $15.33).

I hear you saying the ptp, the ptp. Oh yeah....1 cent per 1000 hits (must be 24 hour unique too, so buying 1000 hits at numerous sites means numerous invalids, usually you will get between 500-750 valid hits out of each 1000--unless you buy from only one site and hope they can deliver a huge amount of hits before your upgrade expires).

You can't buy hits cheap enough to make a profit even if you buy from other PTC sites (generally have cheaper hits than PTR sites or traffic exchanges).

I have joined about 30-40 PTC sites recently, been paid by one (twice in fact), and find reasons to stay at those where I haven't reached payout (signup bonuses, inexpensive advertising, points to use for ads, etc).  Those reasons don't apply at this site as I can't even earn enough to redeem for advertising.

Quick Review of Totally Tweetable

Well I broke down, jumped on the bandwagon, and joined Totally Tweetable a few days ago.

I must say that I am disappointed, I expected much more from the team behind this concept (Walt Bayliss and Mark Evans of Instant Blog Subscribers)

1) At least half the time the links in the credit emails don't load.

2) Another problem is that the ones that do load are often loading incredibly slowly (I am on cable internet so it is NOT my connection that is the problem).

3) And 30 second timers are great if they are actually 30 second timers, not 90 seconds (a minute and a half) due to (again) the slow loading problem

The slow loading problem happens at all times, and what I really do not understand is that there isn't the same problem with Instant Blog Subscribers which is owned by the same people (perhaps the programs aren't on the same servers??).

I also have concerns about alienating my followers on Twitter who aren't into network marketing. A reality check here is that some of us have friends and family as followers, or people we met online through venues outside of network marking.

I basically agree with this review http://www.getrichwithjerry.com/totally-tweetable-an-honest-review/ for that very reason.

The remainder of the reviews I read (probably about 10-15 reviews) were totally positive --one could even say glowing--but they are also from network marketing heavy hitters such as Coach Gina, Carol Walczak (author of Build Your List with East and part owner of PromoLotto Traffic Exchange),  Jane Mark of Sokule etc.  Google "Totally Tweetable" to read these reviews for yourself.

I wonder if they are actually USING the program or just letting their downlines do the work for them or if they are basing their reviews on the success of Instant Blog Subscribers.

I just can't understand all the praise, glowing reviews, hype, for a barely opened program with continual loading problems.

Yes More PTC Sites

Enchanting Clicks
http://www.enchantingclicks.info/index.php?ref=stargazerschild
another site owned by Texaspepper. Great design, reasonably fast earner. Lots of ads to click daily (points and cash) Haven't reached payout yet which is $2.00 (Alert Pay or PayPal)

Purple Passion
http://www.purplepassionptc.info/index.php?ref=stargazerschild
another site owned by Texaspepper. Great design, reasonably fast earner. Lots of ads to click daily (points and cash) Haven't reached payout yet which is $2.00 (Alert Pay or PayPal)

Seasons Cash
http://www.seasonscash.info/index.php?ref=stargazerschild
another site owned by Texaspepper. Great design, somewhat slow earner. Not very many ads to click (points and cash) Haven't reached payout yet which is $2.00 (Alert Pay or PayPal)


Americana PTC
http://www.americanaptc.info/index.php?ref=stargazerschild
Great design for the USA market. Decent earner. Not a lot of ads to click daily but they are all cash. Cannot determine what the payout is for a free member, but its 25 cents for upgraded members. Pays via PayPal